An Erlang-Based Blockchain Meet Yanislav Malahov（part 2）
David: So you said before that multiple blockchains are needer and that the different applications are different use cases, probaby you don’t feel that bitcoin has no role to play, and maybe some of the things that bitcoin does, aternity could do but maybe it shouldn’t do. What is in particular two or three use cases that you would highlight for aeternity?
Yanni: First I would like to also state that I’m kind of like a bitcoin maximalist as well although we are working on aeternity blockchain. Because I believe there’s only one bitcoin, there should be always maximum only 21billion bitcoins. And it’s the bitcoin with the largest amout of proof of work. So the it has a simple btc all the other so-called bitcoins there no real bitcoins for me. And I really believe that bitcoin needs to have success or will have success also to strengthen all other crypto currencies and it’s the longest project in the field the first blockchain. You can say that has probably the largest network effects the biggest the strongest brand and so many people can’t pronounce ethereum even or write it spell it like. I was in a props article where ethereum was consistently spelled wrong for example. So with aeternity blockchain, I mean it’s obviously different than bitcoin. I believe although there’s only one bitcoin I don’t believe that there can be only one blockchain or one token for everything. So we need to have more innovation and I think aeternity blockchain what we’re doing there is really to create the next generation of smart contrart platform. Next after essentially ethereum. You could also say that bitcoin is a simple smart contract platform you can have scripts there in a fouth like language but the use cases which you asking for what I’m super interested in is real estate tokenization. So real estate currently is highly illiquid but everybody needs it every day, everybody using real estate and not very many people can actually afford to buy one apartment or a piece of real estate. But I think everybody should be able to afford to buy at least a fraction of a real estate, especially if they live in or if they’re using it on a day-to-day basis. I think it should be almost like a human right, that this market gets like more becomes more liquid that people can buy and own a real estate. So we’re working on a real estate tokenization project, so-called crypto castle project. It should be soon a website live on cryptocastle.org. It’a a castle in germany where we also hosted the first bitcoin conference, after the beginning of corona a couple months ago. Besides real estate tokenization, I think decentralized finnace is absolutely a great meaning people should have also access a modern financial tools all around the world, no matter where they are.
David: Is it correct to say that with the cryptocastle, for example you are competing with potential third-party developers rather than driving the platform, you are going into application area since….(yanni breaking)
Yanni: We were waiting for a killer use case and we also invested into a bunch of projects, probably around 25 projects or we’re giving them grants like even more grants or bounties to community members. Unfortunately none of there projects so far fulfilled the promise to become like a killer use for the aeternity blockchain. So we are driving this multiple like fronts. I mean very important for us is also the improvements of development tools for the 20 blockchains, I mean the blockchain launch already in 2018. There have been some modifications some upgrades to it by a scheduled hard fork approach. So some new features got lanuched. But fundamentally the blockchain itself hasn’t changed too much, but what’s really now is very important is to create a better development experience. So we want to have the best development experience possible and for this is also really great to have such projects which are building on top of the blockchain. So that we suffer from the same pain which other developers are feeling. So that we can fix these easier with you.
Yanni: 我们一直在等待一个杀手级用例，我们还投资了一系列项目，可能大约有 25 个项目，或者我们正在向他们提供赠款，比如向社区成员提供更多的赠款或赏金。不幸的是，到目前为止，没有一个项目实现了成为aeternity区块链杀手级应用的承诺。所以我们正在推动这多个类似的战线，对我们来说非常重要的是20个区块链的开发工具的改进。Aeternity区块链在2018年推出后通过预定的硬分叉方法对其进行了一些修改和一些升级。但是从根本上来说区块链本身并没有太大的变化，现在真正重要的是创造更好的开发体验。因此，我们希望拥有尽可能最好的开发体验，所以拥有这样建立在区块链之上的项目也是非常棒的。这样我们就遭受了其他开发人员所感受到的同样的痛苦。我们就可以更轻松地与你一起解决这些问题。(3k.chain：虽然这些项目都没有成为杀手级应用，顺便带着ae出圈。但是，因为这些项目在ae区块链上开发过程中，我们感受到了aepp开发人员的痛苦，我们改进很多开发工具，这些经历和结果也是非常宝贵的。)
David: Yes that’s right. So how does your roadmap compare with, for example an ethereum roadmap in terms of scalability, ethereum is going towards proof of stake. How do you see those two areas ?
David: 恩，那就对了。那么，在可扩展性方面，你的路线图与以太坊路线图相比如何，以太坊正在走向PoS。您如何看待这两个领域(PoW PoS)？
Yanni: So I generally believe that proof of work is a very useful mechanism, and we’re working on the hyperchain consensus model and with this new consensus model, everybody will be able to launch an aeternity style blockchain being secured by a proof-of-work parent chain. We’re gonna first probably try to go for bitcoin. We’re gonna create a new aeternity blockchain which is hooked into the bitcoin blockchain. So reusing the proof-of-work from the bitcoin blockchain to secure a proof of stake child chain you could say. And this child chain can then have also further child chains. So arranging them in a tree and these chains exchanging value through cross-chain atomic swaps. I believe that is the most elegant way to scale and to bring crypto or tokens or modern financial instruments to all the population of this world. But work it’s the problem is that if you have a low market cap the security is also low, so with the pow blocokchain the security is actually a function of the time passed or the amount of work done which is related to time. and we had there was an attack on some exchanges last december, so 10 mouths ago, and this caused some problems since then a checkpoint rolling checkpoint mechanism was also implemented. But it’s not exactly how we want it to be meeting with the new hyperchians consensus, we will let people or the users vote whether they want to move their tokens or have essentially also tokens on this on a new hyperchain being called. We don’t call it anymore blockchain it’s inspired by a blockchain but it’s……(David breaking)
Yanni: 我普遍认为工作量证明是一个非常有用的机制，我们正在研究超链共识模型，有了这个新的共识模型，每个人都可以推出一个由工作量证明的父链保护的、具备aeternity风格的区块链。我们首先可能会尝试使用比特币(作为父链)，我们将创建一个连接到BTC区块链的新aeternity区块链。因此，可以重复使用BTC区块链中的工作量证明来确保Pos子链。然后这个子链还可以有更多的子链。因此，将它们排列成一棵树，这些链通过跨链原子交换交换价值。我相信这是扩展并将加密或代币或现代金融工具带给世界上所有人口的最优雅的方式。但PoW的问题是—如果你的市值低，安全性也低。所以对于 pow 区块链，安全性实际上是时间的函数，或者与时间相关。去年12月，也就是10个月前，我们的一些交易所遭到了攻击(针对ae的51%攻击)，这造成了一些问题，此后还实施了检查点滚动检查点机制(100区块不可回滚)。但这并不是我们希望它与新的超链一致的方式，我们将让人们或用户投票决定他们是否想移动他们的代币，还是在一个新的超链上也有代币。我们不再称它为区块链，它的灵感来自于区块链，但它是……